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XPert Transcript: Solaris 9 Early Access
Bill Moffit - Sun Microsystems, Inc.

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Last Updated December 2001
 
 
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  1. When will Solaris 9 be released?
  2. What are the key features in Solaris 9?
  3. Will the iPlanet products be built...
  4. Why can't I download CD images...
  5. How do I start the GUI for Solaris Volume Manager...
  6. Will Solstice DiskSuite become even more ...
  7. Is there any plans...running Linux applications?
  8. Will Solaris 9 ship with Apache ...
  9. How I access Solaris 9 Early Access documents?
  10. Will Solaris 9 x86 support UDMA PCI cards...

  11. Is there any support to legacy laser printers ...
  12. Will an snmp tool (like snmpwalk) be provided for browsing snmpd?
  13. Will the "more general audience" version of Solaris 9 Early Access be made available for IA (x86) as well? (Please?)
  14. What is reason behind the following limitations...
  15. How do I check the list of both mounted and unmounted...
  16. I have an unused hard drive that I would like to utilize as /usr...
  17. Will there be better tools available to move from NIS/NIS+ to LDAP?
  18. WIll ssh be included in Solaris 9?
  19. Will Solaris 9...fix keyboard Intel installation problem...

  20. Is there going to be a beta of Solaris 9 x86?
  21. Who should adopt Solaris 9, instead of previous version (e.g. Solaris 8)?
  22. ...you imply that Veritas Volume Manager will be part of Solaris 9...
  23. What are Sun's future plans for Solstice Disksuite?
  24. Will Solaris 9 use Kerberos as a main authentication engine?
  25. Should I get certified in Solaris 8 or wait for Solaris 9?
  26. With Solaris 8 slowly gaining market share...
  27. Where can I get the .iso's for Solaris 9.?
  28. Will there be a free compiler with solaris 9?
  29. Does Sun plan to use RPM package management system...

  30. What version of SSH will be integrated into Solaris 9?
  31. Will the Jumpstart Flash Image Installation feature in Solaris 9...
  32. With an even greater increase of available video boards...
  33. I have a note book with an ATI Rage Mobility...
  34. Will there be support for NVIDIA Geforce cards in the future in Solaris 9?
  35. Will Solaris 9 include any new items relating to jumpstart or the Flash archives?
  36. What legacy hardware will be supported by Solaris 9 (i.e. SS10, SS20, LX, etc)?
  37. Any plans to allow Solaris to be locked down during installation?
  38. Will Solaris 9 include /dev/random, /dev/urandom and friends?
  39. What features will the the Solaris Volume Manager provide over Disksuite 4.2.1?

  40. If the fabled 64-bit Intel x86 chip is released, will Solaris 9...
  41. Will Solaris 9 officially finalize the USB API...
  42. ...will any of the iPlanet products be ported over to x86 version?
  43. ...Somewhere in there we are supposed to specify the gateway...
  44. I'm running SMC-SVM on an Ultra 1 box, but after selecting Enhanced Storage...
  45. What secondary bootprogram is used when booting from CD in Solaris_9?
  46. Where can I find information about OBP 4.x?
  47. ...performance or availability improvements...to filesystem logging (either UFS+ or SDS...
  48. iPlanet servers are NOT currently bundled on Solaris Intel...
  49. Since you already include lxrun...
  50. What is the best SUN product for Internet Bandwidth Management?

Q: When will Solaris 9 be released?

A: We currently have our "Developer Early Access" available on the Solaris website (http://www.sun.com/solaris). This is the very earliest look at the Solaris 9 kernel, and doesn't have all the "bells and whistles" attached yet.
We are planning to do a more general Early Access early in 2002 with the complete feature set to gather more input from our customers and make sure we have the software right. We anticipate having a final release in the first half of 2002.

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Q: What are the key features in Solaris 9?

A: The features for Solaris 9 are not final yet, so I can't tell you everything. However, there are a lot of new features that just make existing programs run better, like an improved threading library to improve performance and scalability and improved memory handling to enable applications to make use of the huge amounts of memory available on the latest machines running Solaris.

You'll see improvements in manageability, such as the Solaris Volume Manager and the new DHCP server, as well as improvments in reliability, availability, and serviceability, like the new "mdb" modular debugger for quickly finding and fixing problems that can cause crashes. Even at the user level there will be a lot of really good new features, like the GNOME desktop, StarOffice 6, and Netscape 6.2.

Some of the features (like GNOME) won't make the first release of Solaris 9, but we intend to keep up our practice of updating Solaris about 4 times a year, so what doesn't make the first release will be in the updates as quickly as possible.

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Q: Will the iPlanet products be built in to Solaris 9?

A: The iPlanet Directory Server, Web Server, and Application Server are already bundled, with full development licenses, in the Solaris 8 media kit, and we anticipate continuing to bundle them with Solaris 9.

In Solaris 9, we are beginning the move from NIS and NIS+ naming services to LDAP, so we will be integrating the iPlanet Directory Server into Solaris to provide highly-scalable directory and naming services.

However, we have no plans to integrate additional iPlanet products into Solaris at this time. We want to provide a complete stack of products (including development tools) with Solaris to enable developers to create J2EE applications for Solaris as quickly, inexpensively, and easily as possible.

At the same time, we want to continue to offer an "open system" so that our customers can choose other products and integrate them on top of Solaris quickly and seamlessly.

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Q: Why can't I download CD images of Solaris 9 Early Access?

A: Because the Developer Early Access program is intended for experienced Solaris developers, we wanted to provide it in a format that would be most useful to that audience. Since most established Solaris sites have an install server, the net install image was felt to be the most useful.

We are planning another Early Access program early in 2002, using a more recent version of the Solaris 9 software. Because it is intended for a much wider audience, we intend to make CD images (and even real CDs) available in this next Early Access program.

Watch http://www.sun.com/solaris in January for news about this program.

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Q: How do I start the GUI for Solaris Volume Manager, the command metatool is missing?
Will admintool be replace by SMC ?

A: The Solaris Volume Manager GUI is normally started from the Solaris Management Console GUI. I'm not sure how to start it from the command line. I shall try to investigate and let you know.

The Volume Manager documentation should be coming on-line very soon.

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Q: Will Solstice DiskSuite become even more tightly integrated into Solaris 9?

A: Yes. Solstice DiskSuite has become Solaris Volume Manager and is now an integral part of Solaris 9. There are also numerous improvements in Solaris Volume Manager in Solaris 9.

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Q: Is there any plans for Solaris 9 to include binary support for running Linux applications?

A: We are continuing to develop the lxrun technology for running Linux applications in Solaris. Lxrun is planned for inclusion in Solaris 9 for the IA-32 architecture. There is no plan to enable binary support for running Linux applications on SPARC because we are not aware of any Linux SPARC applications that do not run in Solaris.

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Q: Will Solaris 9 ship with Apache and other 3rd party open source projects as Solaris 8 did?

A: We are planning to include even more open source software in Solaris 9 than in Solaris 8. Apache (including TomCat) will certainly still be included, along with lots more. We're planning a new Solaris 9 Early Access program with a more complete set of software included; check the Solaris web page in January for more information.

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Q: How I access Solaris 9 Early Access documents?

A: Follow the "Documentation" link off the navigation bar on the left side of the Solaris 9 Early Access site at http://www.sun.com/solaris/programs/solaris9ea/ (No Longer Available)

This link will take you to the terms and conditions for viewing the Solaris 9 EA documents. You must agree to those terms and conditions, after which you will receive the username and password for the EA docs site.

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Q: Will Solaris 9 x86 support UDMA PCI cards (for example: Promise Ultra66 Ultra100)?

A: At this point I can't commit to specific driver support in Solaris 9 beyond what is present in the Solaris 9 Developer Early Access.

More information will become available as the release date approaches.

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Q: Is there any support to legacy laser printers like the newsprint20 ?

A: That's a good question, and I don't know the full answer. My knowledge of the NewsPrint printers and how they interact with Solaris is incomplete.

What I do know is this: OpenWindows is no longer available in Solaris 9, although OpenWindows apps will continue to run. It may be that you can continue to use the NewsPrint 20, but you may not be able to administer it effectively.
Bottom line: I'm not sure.

I shall investigate and get back to you.

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Q: Will an snmp tool (like snmpwalk) be provided for browsing snmpd?

A: The main client-side tool for SNMP in Solaris 8 or Solaris 9 is the Sun Management Center 3.0. Check it out at http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/sunmanagementcenter/.

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Q: Will the "more general audience" version of Solaris 9 Early Access be made available for IA (x86) as well? (Please?)

A: That is still the plan at this time.

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Q: What is reason behind the following limitations in OS?
1. File size cannot be more than 2GB.
2. Number of process =30000
Any improvements in solaris 9 regarding above two issues ?

A: Actually, the file size problem was fixed in Solaris 7 (running in 64-bit mode), and the number of processes was fixed in Solaris 8 (now it's 1,000,000).

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Q: How do I check the list of both mounted and unmounted physical disks that are installed in a SunSolaris environment/server.
I need to locate new disks that are physically attached to the server, and mount them.
Any help would be appreciated !!

A: In Solaris 9 you use the Solaris Volume Manager (formerly the Solstice DiskSuite software), which also allows you to set up mirroring and striping between volumes.

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Q: Hey Bill, Sorry, but I've got a newbie question. I have an unused hard drive that I would like to utilize as /usr. Is there an easy way to move/split/link this.

A: Use the Solaris Volume Manager.

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Q: Will there be better tools available to move from NIS/NIS+ to LDAP?

I have tried to move over to LDAP on Solaris following the docs.sun.com and Suns Blueprints, but I have to find it is not that easy.

Since I never really got all my MAPS (mail aliases, auto_direct converted to LDAP).

This process needs to be made easier and there needs to be a good tool to add entries to LDAP. i.e. You can add all user details in one go (username, mail aliases, etc.....)

If I remember it took a long time for the conversion of NIS to NIS+ to run smoothly and for tools to become available.

I think Sun can not take so long this time, since LDAP is already here and other companies are offering this already... I do not really want our LDAP server to be Active Directory!!!

A: We are preparing better tools for NIS/NIS+ to LDAP migration. Some will be available in the first release of Solaris 9, others will be in the updates.

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Q: WIll ssh be included in Solaris 9?

A: Yes, we are planning to include ssh in Solaris 9.

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Q: Bill, can you tell me whether the final Solaris 9 version will finally fix the keyboard problem encountered when installing the Intel version of both Solaris 8 and the Solaris 9 beta release (I just tried it) on the newer Dell laptop models?
I understand that laptops aren't supported - but the people who want Solaris on their laptops are usually your most ardent fans - do they not deserve a little attention?

A: Well, I'm not sure I'm qualified to make moral judgements (as to who is more deserving of attention, etc.). What I can tell you is that (assuming we are discussing the same problems) the bugs have been pointed out to our engineering team and we shall have to see what happens.

Sorry I can't be more specific, but thanks for your question.

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Q: Is there going to be a beta of Solaris 9 x86?
If so, when and how do I get it?

A: Both the beta and early access programs include the IA-32 platform. You can get the early access software from the Solaris 9 Early Access website at http://www.sun.com/solaris/programs/solaris9ea

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Q: Who should adopt Solaris 9, instead of previous version (e.g. Solaris 8)?

A: Well, that's an easy one: everybody! ;-)

Seriously, though, I can give you two pieces of advice on this:

1. In general, it will be to your advantage to use the newest version of Solaris you can. You may run into problems, however, if other vendors (for software or peripherals) upon whom you depend do not support Solaris 9 right away. You should certainly put pressure on them to support Solaris 9 (the chances that Solaris 9 introduces any problems for their currently-shipping products is extremely small), but, if you have to deploy a solution immediately, use the version of Solaris that is supported for the software you are deploying.

2. The only exception to this rule is for developers creating applications specifically for deployment on Solaris: you should use the oldest version of Solaris you intend to support in your development. Hence, if you intend to support both Solaris 8 and Solaris 9, develop your application on Solaris 8 and use the Solaris Application Guarantee (http://www.sun.com/service/support/sw_only/solaris/solaris_guarantee.html) to ensure that you will be able to support Solaris 9 and beyond.

The reason for developing on the oldest version of Solaris you intend to support is to ensure you don't use interfaces that have been introduced in newer versions of Solaris that are not part of earlier versions. We ensure upward compatibility, but not downward.

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Q: In one of your answers to a question you imply that Veritas Volume Manager will be part of Solaris 9.
Does that mean that every copy of Solaris 9 will include it and that it we become just another part of the system?
Or will you have to install and license it separately like you do now?

A: Oops! I certainly didn't mean imply that Veritas Volume Manager would be part of Solaris 9! If I did, I apologize, I meant something very different.

Solaris Volume Manager, developed by Sun, is included as an integral part of Solaris 9 specifically so you don't have to necessarily purchase Veritas Volume Manager just to perform normal volume management (setting up disks, breaking them into slices, concatenating disks into larger volumes, striping, and mirroring).

There are still plenty of good reasons to use Veritas File System and Veritas Volume Manager (particularly if you want to share a single set of storage across several systems running different operating environments), but Solaris Volume Manager should be a good substitute, integrated into Solaris, for many installations.

Solaris Volume Manager is an enhanced version of our previous volume management product, Solstice DiskSuite, which remains bundled in the "Early Access" directory of Solaris 8.

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Q: What are Sun's future plans for Solstice Disksuite?
Will a new version be released with Solaris 9?
If so, what new features can administrators look forward to?

A: I'm really enjoying all these questions about volume management, because it's one of the more exciting parts of Solaris 9!

Solstice DiskSuite is indeed included with Solaris 9. It is renamed Solaris Volume Manager, and, instead of being included with Solaris in the Early Access directory as it was in Solaris 8, it is fully integrated as part of Solaris 9. It includes a new user interface, which is integrated into the Solaris Management Console, and several new features, such as the ability to perform an update on a mirrored root disk.

The Solaris Volume Manager documentation is now online at docs.sun.com, and I invite everyone to learn more about it.

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Q: Will Solaris 9 use Kerberos as a main authentication engine?
I know that SEAM (SUN implementation of Kerberos) was avaiable for a long time but what about the possibility to use Kerberos not only in a few applications (like rsh, telnet, ftp and NFS) but for use in auth for LDAP client.
In other words, will other parts of Solaris 9 be rewritten useng GSS API?

A: Yes, we are working toward the goal of having Kerberos authentication throughout Solaris. I can't commit to it being available in the first release of Solaris 9, however; parts may come in update releases.

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Q: I hold MCSE and I am planning to go in the for training and The Certification of System Administration in Solaris 8.
I don`t have any solid idea in the Solaris, but I am just going through the Foundamentals.
Do you think I should go ahead for the trainning on Solaris 8, or I should wait for the Solaris 9?

A: Although this is not strictly on topic, I would advise you to go ahead and take the training for Solaris 8. Solaris 8 will continue to be sold for several more years, and there are a lot of machines out there that are now and will continue to run Solaris 8. Furthermore, the differences between Solaris 8 and Solaris 9 will be easily understood once you understand Solaris 8.

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Q: With Solaris 8 slowly gaining market share, albeit a better version than 7, why should solaris 9 be released so early?

A: Actually, Solaris 8's rise in market share doesn't really appear to be slow. The majority of machines we are shipping now are running Solaris 8, and all of the 1.3 million downloads we have had over the last two years have been Solaris 8.

The simple reason for introducing Solaris 9 is that we have a number of new features to introduce that we cannot introduce in Solaris 8. In order to protect our customers' investment in Solaris, we do not introduce any feature in a Solaris update that changes an API. We do this so there is no chance that your applications could change in behavior or crash when moving from one update of Solaris to another.

However, we do need to introduce new APIs from time to time and change the implementation of some APIs in order to improve how Solaris works. We also occasionally remove antiquated features from Solaris, and we only do this when we introduce a new version of Solaris.

So the reason we are introducing Solaris 9 now is to bring these features, which have significant value for our customers, out in the safest and most effective manner. We shall continue to make Solaris 8 avaiable for years to come, however, for those customers who need or prefer it.

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Q: Where can I get the .iso's for Solaris 9. I find it very easy to work with these, as most of my testing is done away from the network I download things.

P.S. Nice picture.

A: Thanks, Brian. Some folks find it hard to believe that Sun would continue to employ someone so unattractive, but it's a continuing testament to the company's policies on non-discrimination... ;-)

We'll make CD images available in the next round of Early Access, which should happen early in 2002. Keep your eye on the Solaris site and here on BigAdmin for the announcement.

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Q: Will there be a free compiler with solaris 9?

A: Our plan is to do the same thing we do now: include the Gnu compilers (for compatibility & low-performance apps) and include a "try-n-buy" of the Forte toolset (for performance use).

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Q: Does Sun plan to use RPM package management system instead of Sun's pkg package management tool?

A: It is something we have been considering, but there are no plans to move away from the pkgadd/pkgrm tools for the time being.

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Q: What version of SSH will be integrated into Solaris 9?

A: We are planning to ship SSH V2 in Solaris 9.

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Q: Will the Jumpstart Flash Image Installation feature in Solaris 9 support, clone and restore Solaris Volume Manager Metadevices with soft partitions?

A: After some discussion with the folks in the Solaris Volume Manager team, I think the answer to your question is that Jumpstart won't do anything to your metadevices or soft partitions. They should be exactly the same with the new version of Solaris as they were with the previous version (before you flashed the new image).

In the new version of Solaris Volume Manager (formerly known as Solstice DiskSuite) that comes with Solaris 9, you will even be able to update a mirrored root partition without breaking the mirror.

If this doesn't address your question, please feel free to clarify and repose your question.

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Q: With an even greater increase of available video boards and a increase in video memory, will the Solaris 9 have a greater varierty of video drivers that will be offered.

A: There are new drivers becoming available all the time; additionally, we have the ability to use XFree86 drivers for Solaris on Intel.

Check out http://soldc.sun.com/support/drivers/hcl/index.html for the list of currently available drivers and http://soldc.sun.com/developer/support/driver/tools/video/video-index.html for the XFree86 driver tools.

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Q: I have a note book with an ATI Rage Mobility card. Please tell me how I can get the UGI with a correct screen definition. Is there a site where I can download the drivers?

A: Check out http://soldc.sun.com/support/drivers/hcl/index.html for the list of currently available drivers and http://soldc.sun.com/developer/support/driver/tools/video/video-index.html for tools that will let you use XFree86 drivers.

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Q: Will there be support for NVIDIA Geforce cards in the future in Solaris 9?

A: A: Check out http://soldc.sun.com/support/drivers/hcl/index.html for the list of currently available drivers and http://soldc.sun.com/developer/support/driver/tools/video/video-index.html for tools that will let you use XFree86 drivers.

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Q: Will Solaris 9 include any new items relating to jumpstart or the Flash archives?

A: The answer is "yes," but I'm not quite ready to talk about it yet.

For some hints, however, see http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-8067114.html?tag=st.ne.1003.saslnk.saseml.

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Q: What legacy hardware will be supported by Solaris 9 (i.e. SS10, SS20, LX, etc)?

A: Solaris 9 will support the same platforms as Solaris 8, with the exception of the machines listed in the Solaris 9 "Release Notes" on docs.sun.com. Solaris 9 documentation on docs.sun.com is password-protected. To view the Solaris 9 documentation, simply go to the Solaris 9 Early Access page at http://www.sun.com/solaris/programs/solaris9ea/ (No Longer Available) and click on the "documentation" button in the navigation bar on the left side of the page. This will take you to a "terms and conditions" page; when you agree to the terms and conditions, you will get the username and password for the Solaris 9 docs.

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Q: Any plans to allow Solaris to be locked down during installation?
By this I mean, services in inetd.conf off by default, unneeded services shut off by default( lp, rpc, sendmail, powerd, SNMP stuff, etc.).

A: We're working on such an installation option, hoping to get it into one of the early updates of Solaris 9.

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Q: Will Solaris 9 include /dev/random, /dev/urandom and friends?
These missing bits are hindering the ability of encryption software to gather entropy on Solaris currently.

A: Yes, Solaris 9 has /dev/random.

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Q: What features will the the Solaris Volume Manager provide over Disksuite 4.2.1?
Will SVM get away from slice based disk allocation? Any extra recovery, monitoring or maintenance goodies?
I work for BellSouth, and we make extensive use of SDS. Curious to see where it's headed :)

A: No, SVM will still use the slice scheme, because it offers so much versatility and flexibility. Note that we introduced the "soft partitioning" capability into SDS in Solaris 9 update 6, which provides even more flexibility. The main new features for Solaris Volume Manager in Solaris 9 is the ability to update a mirrored root (without breaking the mirror) and integration into the Solaris Management Console. Eventually, Solaris Management Console and Sun Management Center will merge, providing a single view into all aspects of system management, including recovery, monitoring, and maintenance for all system functions.

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Q: If the fabled 64-bit Intel x86 chip is released, will Solaris 9 include the already-written drivers, etc. to make it a 64-bit platform on Intel?

A: I honestly don't know of a fabled 64-bit x86 chip from Intel. We looked at their 64-bit Itanium chip (formerly code-named "Merced," and most assuredly bearing no relationship to the x86 line) and, after doing an initial port of Solaris, decided not to productize it due to low anticipated market demand (a decision that seems even wiser in hindsight, given the resounding lack of success for that processor).

We have no plans to port Solaris to any other 64-bit processors at this time.

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Q: Will Solaris 9 officially finalize the USB API, thus clearing the way to have the official API published?

A: This is something we are working on, but I can't say for certain that it will be finished and ready to be published by the time Solaris 9 first comes out.

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Q: I think the biggest question for Solaris x86 users will any of the iPlanet products be ported over to x86 version?
Sun has reluntantly left x86 users with only apache as there only choice of web servers to implement which is even a sadder note at this point.

A: I can only assure you that concerns like yours are being considered; I can't commit to a resolution right now.

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Q: We're setting up a Solaris machine. In the setup, we select NO when asked to select DHCP, however we want to access the Internet from the box.
When we get to the point where the system asks for Host Window displays, we enter the host name.
Then we enter the IP address. Somewhere in there we are supposed to specify the gateway, but we're not getting prompted.
Do we do that after setting up the Netmask? How? There aren't any prompts.

A: Well, the default behavior has (or is supposed to have) changed. While you were never prompted for a gateway address in Solaris 8 (it always searched), in Solaris 9 you should be prompted for one (if it cannot be found from its' search).
If this is not the behavior you are seeing, please get in touch with the appropriate Sun support folks and file a bug.

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Q: I'm running SMC-SVM on an Ultra 1 box, but after selecting Enhanced Storage it wont show any disks.
Is it a known problem?

A: Not as far as I know. Can you give me some more configuration details (what storage is attached, which version of Solaris were you running on it before you put on Solaris 9, how was it configured then?) and I'll see what I can find out.

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Q: What secondary bootprogram is used when booting from CD in Solaris_9 ?
In earlier versins there was a "cdrboot" pgm but it seems to have vanished.

A: OK, I have to admit, I'm stumped. I shall try to find out. Might I ask why this is of interest to you?

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Q: Where can I find information about OBP 4.x?

A: I'm not sure, but I'd check the Solaris 9 documentation. Go to the Solaris 9 EA site at http://www.sun.com/solaris/programs/solaris9ea/ (No Longer Available) and click on "documentation" on the left side of the page.

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Q: Are there any significant performance or availability improvements to filesystem logging (either UFS+ or SDS trans metadevices) or should we hang onto Veritas Filesystem (VxFS)?

A: We are working on a significant enhancement to the logging performance for UFS, and it should become available in one of the early updates to Solaris 9.

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Q: iPlanet servers are NOT currently bundled on Solaris Intel media, although your earlier reply implies they are. Are you planning to change this for Solaris 9?

A: We are working with the iPlanet group to solve this problem. We hope for resolution by the time we launch Solaris 9.

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Q: Since you already include lxrun, and a simple baseline linux image would only be around 30megs compressed, how about including a usable base linux system that would be "plug-n-play" with the included lxrun?

It's way too much hassle to have to do an actual linux install on a separate fdisk partition, etc. when sun could easily distribute a base-line image to use instead. Particularly on the DVD install media.

A: This is something we have been looking at, but I can't commit to a solution yet.

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Q: What is the best SUN product for Internet Bandwidth Management?

A: Check out Solaris Bandwidth Manager.

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